Update: Ex-girlfriend testifies she saw Adam Lee Hall with handguns


SPRINGFIELD -- A day before three city men were killed Adam Lee Hall was allegedly seen removing three handguns from inside a large bag of dog food at his co-defendant's apartment.

Allyson Scace, who said she had been in a relationship with Hall, on Tuesday told the jury in Hampden Superior Court that while she was hanging out at the apartment of Caius Veiovis with David Chalue in late August 2011, Hall showed up and pulled three handguns from a bag of dog food and began cleaning one of the weapons.

"He took three guns out of the bag," she said. "They were just looking at them and taking them apart."

It was the same weekend that Hall, Chalue and Veiovis allegedly kidnapped and murdered three Pittsfield men.

Kayla Sewell, 24, also was there that day, according to her testimony on Tuesday. She had hooked up with Veiovis who she was intrigued by and found to be "very respectful" of her. She said she had been upstairs with him and when she came down to the living room she saw Hall cleaning a gun.

"If you'd ever seen [Veiovis'] apartment, that didn't seem out of the ordinary," she told the jury.

She said "there were weapons all over the place ... knives, swords."

Scace called Veiovis' apartment "creepy" with what she described as blood spattered on the walls and an ashtray she said was made out of the top of human skull.

Scace, 24, said she didn't initially tell police about the guns because she was scared.

"He told me not to say anything [about the guns]," she said of a conversation she later had with Hall.

Sewell acknowledged under cross-examination by Hall's attorney, Alan J. Back, that she hadn't recalled anything about a gun until after Scace reminded her.

Steven Hinman, 54, of Lenox, testified Hall was at his house with three pistols -- a .45, a .223 and a .40 -- the same day, and a short time before, Scace had seen the same guns at Veiovis' apartment.

Prosecutors said Hall previously had stashed the guns in a woodpile on his property. Hinman said Hall put the guns in a dog food bag and left his home.

The weapons that were used to kill David Glasser, Edward Frampton and Robert Chadwell never were recovered, but police recovered .45 caliber slugs from the men's remains.

Hinman said he didn't initially tell police about the guns because he was afraid since "you don't know what might happen to someone."

According to Hinman, about four years ago, Hall sent him a letter asking him to tell police to say Glasser had stolen from him.

"This is out of my league," he recalled thinking at the time.

According to prior testimony, Hall had asked several people to help him try to frame Glasser to discredit him as a witness. In August 2010, Hall allegedly masterminded a fake armed robbery in upstate New York to try to frame Glasser. Some of the 20 charges Hall is facing are related to that incident.

Another witness on Tuesday told the jury Hall tried to get her to try to frame Glasser for rape.

Katelyn Carmin, 23, of Albany, N.Y., who said she has known Hall for about 14 years, alleged that while hanging out with Hall in Schenectady, N.Y. in 2010, Hall asked her to go to Glasser's home, get drunk with him and then tell police he raped her. When she said "no" he asked if her sister or anyone else she knew would be willing to, she said. She again told him "no" and became angry at him, according to her testimony.

Carmin also told the jury about hanging out with Hall, Chalue and Veiovis in late August 2011, the day before Tropical Storm Irene hit the Berkshires. They were in a tan Buick, Carmin recalled, and Hall was talking about Glasser, having a "hissy fit," and saying he "ought to kill that mother f---er."

She said Chalue and Veiovis responded "don't worry, don't worry, we'll get him."

She didn't take Hall's threats seriously, she said.

"He always talked like that," said the witness.

That day Hall also mentioned David Casey and said he wanted to use his backhoe, but that Casey would not call him back, according to Carmin's testimony.

"He said he needed [the backhoe] to finish a job," Carmin told the jury. She then added Hall said he needed it to do some work on a pond.

"He was evasive, snippy," she said of Hall's behavior that day.

The prosecution alleges Casey used his backhoe to help bury the victims' bodies.

Carmin admitted she was "drinking heavily" and smoking marijuana the day she was with Hall and his codefendants.

The trial continues on Wednesday.


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